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mercwithamouth:abohemianmind:atleastihavemyshows:abohemianmind:atleastihavemyshows:worthyourweightinfanfiction:“What’s Wrong With Stephen Moffat?”Rebloggable by requestI love thisThe only main thing I take issue with is about Madame de Pompadour. She is not just famous for having sex with a king. Do some history research here. Yes, she became the king’s mistress, but she was super influential. She was very intelligent, and had so much influence over the king that some diplomats would go to HER to seek help. She also was on great terms with the queen (a pretty difficult task for a mistress). She had a major influence on France during her short lifetime. THIS is why the Doctor risked being stuck there to save her. It wasn’t to be with her, it was to save her life, and therefore save the course of history, very in character for the Doctor.Otherwise, almost spot on for most of the reasons I don’t like Moffat.Yeah, but that’s the real Madame. Not the version Moffat gave us. I think she’s commenting on the Moffat version. Seeing as how she was never shown as anything other than another love interest, it’s a pretty valid point. In the context of the episode, the Doctor did give up his TARDIS, his Rose (because he was laready in love with her at that point) and risked Mickey’s life for a woman. Not very Doctor at all.Just because we didn’t see her doing those things in the episode, doesn’t mean she wasn’t doing them. We only saw very short glimpses of her life.The historical figures in Doctor Who have pretty much always done the same historical things, just with a variation on whichever event the Doctor happened in on.The Doctor knows history. Really well. He knows how important Madame de Pompadour is to earth’s history. THAT’S what he’s trying to save. He’s not just going back because he fancies her. He knows that if she dies early, the entire course of history could be changed. Rose could never be born. Not to mention the possible paradox of the ship that they were on never being built or at least not named after her, therefore the clockwork men not trying to get her brain to fix it.The Doctor was saving history. Not to mention that he didn’t even completely give up the TARDIS and Rose because he would just keep living and eventually make his way back too them… It might have taken a while… And he probably would have found a way to snag a time agent and use them to get to where he needed to be.Not to mention that the Doctor sacrificing himself to save a life, anyone’s life, is always in character.I still don’t like Moffat’s current writing, but I will defend this episode.Also OP saying that Madame de Pompadour’s claim to fame is only that she had a lot of sex with the king is just totally bullshit. Lots of kings had lots of lovers, and most of them aren’t famous. The ones that are, are the ones that used their position to get shit done.Yes, well, that’s bad writing still. Because there are actually people out there who don’t read history books and don’t know anything about history other than what they see on TV. Therefore, to them, all they see is a mistress who is condescending, and a Doctor who is crowing about kissing said mistress, and who seems to be going back for her as a woman, not her as a very important historical person.Thus, out of character.“It happened offscreen” is like an ancient proverb with Moffat, I swear.It doesn’t matter what happened offscreen. Madame de Pompadour, the PERSON, was an original badass. Reinette, Moffat’s character, was someone to love the Doctor and be practically perfect enough for him to abandon his companions (one of which he arguably had feelings for) to save her. She’s a damsel that got in his head. That’s it, that’s all she gets to be. Saying “but she could still have been a bad ass off screen” doesn’t make it better, because what we see onscreen is a coldly ambitious, condescending and classist individual who has no use for anyone who isn’t the King or the Doctor.Spare me your excuses. Moffat’s creation is a caricature of the historical figure, and the episode is appalling. -- source link
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