leupagus:Okay, so bear with me, BUT. Does anybody else think that this dude, who is seen fighting Ga
leupagus:Okay, so bear with me, BUT. Does anybody else think that this dude, who is seen fighting Gandalf in the trailer at what looks to be Dol Guldur, doesn’t look much like an orc or a Necromancer? That in fact, he looks very much like a starved, raggedy dwarf?Because I have a theory that it’s Thrain. Either there’s a flashback to the time Gandalf snuck into Dol Guldur umpity-five years ago (or whatever it was in the book) or — and I think this is more likely, since in Hobbit#1 Gandalf seemed surprised there was anything in the fortress at all — they’ve changed the timeline stuff for the movies and Gandalf encounters Thrain in the fortress after he rides off from Beorn’s house and teams up with Radagast.If I’m right (and I’m pretty sure I’m right), then this will be AWESOME. Thrain was always a really interesting character to me — in the books, he takes over his dad’s crown for a while after his dad is killed by Azog, but he’s never quite comfortable with it and essentially hands off the crown to Thorin in order to (wait for it) go reclaim Erebor, taking Balin and Dwalin (amongst others) with him — only to get captured by the Necromancer’s minions and imprisoned in Dol Guldur and left to rot. (So that whole thing in Bilbo’s house where Balin’s like THIS IS GONNA END SHITTY, LET’S GO BACK TO THE BLUE MOUNTAINS to Thorin is spoken from a metric fuckton of experience.)Goddamn Richard Armitage for finding out that Thrain is Old Norse for “yearner,” because Thrain is one of the two Kings of Erebor who are never officially crowned; Thrain’s entire destiny, even more so than his son, is failure and death. (For those who don’t know, apparently Thorin means “darer.” Don’t look at me, just… don’t.) And it’s always driven me NUTS that we never get to actually meet Thrain; we hear about a mad old dwarf that Gandalf encounters in the prison cells, and we hear a very tiny bit about him from his son, and there’s the appendices information that’s always pretty dry and textbooky. But there’s no sense in the canon of who Thrain really was, how the madness afflicted him, how he felt losing Durin’s ring. In the books he loses his eye at the battle of Moria; in the movies, it’s an old injury, probably from previous battles. What kind of life did he have as the heir to the throne under a king he must have realized was going mad? What kind of better ruler did he imagine Thorin would be? What kind of horrible destiny did he knowingly pass on to his son by giving Gandalf the map and key, to inspire Thorin to make almost the exact same harebrained journey a century later?It looks like the movie might give us a few of these answers. Somebody wake me when it’s December 13th. -- source link
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