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ladyandtheghost:estherruth-jonsatrash:murderouswhoresansa:ladyandtheghost:asoiafcentral:tell me,             who manipulated whom?And I still want to know why the fuck this smile if not for Pol!Jon?!?! honestly, this scene doesnt make any sense without pol!jonI think they were confirming political Jon, they just kept it ambiguous for DT stans and EC. I honestly didn’t go into season 8 expecting political Jon. I figured they wrote a stupid and bland romance that required Jon to be out of character, but just chalked it up to the poor writing and execution. It was only after looking at season 8 as a whole that I ended up believing political Jon was real. The idea he loved her ended up seeming more far-fetched to me. Notice how Jon doesn’t tell D he loves her before he kills her? That just doesn’t make sense if he did love her to not say it once for real, as she didn’t believe it (nor did the general audience) the single time he said it because it was in direct response to her threats. I also think Sansa’s look of realization shows Jon didn’t tell Sansa he loved D. She directly asked if he bent the knee for the North or because he loved her. Seems like at most he gave a non-answer. If he had sincerely confessed to being in love with her to Sansa when she asked, she wouldn’t have been swayed by this line. Sansa wouldn’t have been happy and smiling to herself because she already would have known for certain that Jon wasn’t manipulating D’s feelings. That was really one thing that cinched it for me (that and Jon’s avoidance of “I love you”).Political!Jon was never going to be Jon deviously scheming and rubbing his hands together cackling about his evil plan to use Dany for his own agenda. It was always in the subtext, an underlying truth that kept Jon’s character upright and somewhat removed from Dany’s darkness, despite his association with her. Unfortunately D&D are not as good at writing subtlety as GRRM is and I think this is why Jon’s characterisation in S7 and S8 is all over the place - it should have been clear that Jon would never condone literally any of the actions Dany takes and they do show his desperation in trying to secure her help, but in between that, they did not know how to negotiate Jon’s character with the fact tha the needed to get her on his side. Having not much time to play it all out properly probably contributed to this, but they still dropped these scenes implying that Jon and his alleged ‘love’ for Dany was not at all what it seemed. Otherwise, Sansa had zero business laughing at that exact moment. Zero. Unless it was to at least make clear that she knows something that we don’t know.   -- source link
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