kyraneko: fierceawakening: karama9: gamerdogg: gamerdogg: amydentata: cynixy: snarksonomy: mquester:

kyraneko: fierceawakening: karama9: gamerdogg: gamerdogg: amydentata: cynixy: snarksonomy: mquester: aliceinpunderland: odditycollector: trashy-prince: sweetguts: suddenlycomics: nursemchurt: dmh3000: Every damn year.  I need to learn how to draw a decent Batman pic. So what you’re trying to say is that women people prefer well-drawn pictures of their favorite superheroes over really shitty indie comics about boobs? Sounds right. Are we supposed to feel sorry for the person whose humor comic featuring a disembodied pair of breasts on the cover is getting passed over?Incredible. this feels like it should be a parody but it isnt and that’s hilarious maybe try not being sexist unfunny douchelords next time HEY, WE DO A HUMOR COMIC ABOUT [SOMETHING THAT LOOKS EXTREMELY SEXIST] HEY WHERE ARE YOU GOING No, no way is this a serious complaint (I said to myself). No one’s that un-self aware. This has got to be a parody about gross “indie” comics skeeving up the con atmosphere, and the schadenfreude we’re totally intended to feel at their failure. So I went to the OP’s tumblr to check context and. This was just supposed to be a comic about how hard it can be for the unknowns to find their audience. Anything else you see is your own interpretation of the page. They are serious. That is more hilarious than any punchline actually in the comic. I’m honestly crying with laughter right now. wow cry me a THOUSAND tears about how hard it is for white men to get into the comics industry by drawing tits I can think of very few female comic readers who wouldn’t choose the Green Lantern image over a comic with nothing but boobs on the cover :P If the OP wants female fans as their target audience, they need to make some changes or expect not to get any of their money. Oh god… he edited the original post to “Apologies to anyone offended by the cover.”  … Not “Apologies, I made a really gross and alienating statement.”  He does this in another post, as well trying to justify it all.   /facedesk Wow, this is a perfect example of the creative blind spots I’ve been talking about. This comic was not intended to be satire. The OP completely missed the significance of having just a pair of boobs on a magazine cover and its effect on a female audience. In the OP’s own words: “In the original script I said there was a comic being held up without specifying what was on it, so Paul just drew a pair of breasts and I put the page up because at the time I saw nothing wrong with it, and when I put it on tumblr, the unfortunate implications never crossed my mind until they were pointed out to me.” There was no sexist intent behind this comic (or clever expose of sexism), but this clearly illustrates how so much offensive content gets released in comics, games, and other media. It looks okay to the people making it.This is why we need women, PoC, and LGBT people in industries that are dominated by one POV. We need to start viewing content through more than one lens.I talk about it at length HERE. (emphasis mine) Complete and uncensored, the reason many people take issue with the comics world (and other media dominated by homogenous culture). Straight from the horse’s mouth, unintentionally. I had to read that comic three times to believe it. This deserves a second reblog. It happens with instances of racism, too. The attitudes are so bloody pervasive that artists and writers don’t even know they’re doing it. And not only is it a problem that it keeps getting published, the people doing it get incredibly defensive when it’s pointed out because they sincerely believe they are not sexist or racist. I think the only way to hope for change is to keep reacting to it. Every time. What was the point of the comic supposed to be? It’s not clear to me. Is it something like “if an artist draws fanart/a writer writes fic catering to existing fandoms, they are likely to succeed, but if they make original content they are likely to be passed over?” Because if that is it, that’s definitely a thing I’ve noticed too, and it’s a real shame this comic muddied the waters by drawing something that could easily be read as “the woman wasn’t interested in reading a humorous boob comic.” I think its point was something like “it’s frustrating that people don’t go for original stories as much as they go for things they already like.” Which is part inherent to the comparison, since fanworks access a story that has already proved itself to its fans (but only to its fans; people who are not fans of it already are probably going to be slightly more interested in original works than fanworks of a thing they’re not fans of), which practically guarantees at least some enjoyment even if the fanwork’s quality is not that great. But I would say that the thing to do is step up the display such that people can get something to work with for the original work—enough to give them a better idea of whether they might like it or not. Lots of art, minicomics, bits of dialogue or story snippets, backstory, artifacts, in-character commentary, all will let people know things about the new story. Possibly this was what the original comic was going for with a picture of boobs on the front of the comic; if that’s a thing that would interest the creator if he saw that on a comic cover, he might expect it to work on everyone else as well, and what he expected to be a Fanworks Advantage -enduced failure is in fact more of a marketing failure, specifically not realizing how much of his target market wants more than a pair of boobs before they’ll shell out their time, let alone their money. Put bluntly, that table is bare. There’s nothing to see there but boobs in a bikini top, and given that they’re at a con, one can probably see better ones for free just by looking around. There needs to be more stuff, and I don’t mean “we’d explain it to people if they’d listen” type stuff. I mean visually, laid out, instantaneous information to draw interest, because that’s what original content is competing with with fanworks. Nobody has to explain Star Wars, and honestly, who could do it justice? “There’s a princess, and a guy in a suit with a helmet and laser sword …” Star Wars became the hit it did with the first scene in A New Hope, with the Star Destroyer coming in overhead. No amount of “this is a comic about” is going to challenge that. Depending on your ability to tell people about it is limited. A book summary is about all you can do with that. Showing them is what it’s all about. Artwork, character design, worldbuilding, prose, dialogue, situations, the creator’s ability to incite emotion in the reader: these are what make the big fandom media support massive fandoms; this is what is all ready and waiting in their heads to inform their perceived enjoyment of a fanwork. This, therefore, is what has to be provided by the purveyor of an original work to entice people to give it a shot alongside their beloved fandoms. This is also how fanwork creators turn nonfans into new fans, by presenting a well-known media in a new light such that it attracts people who never were attracted to its parent media. I have never been a fan of the Zelda games, but when presented with a brilliantly-illustrated (holy monochrome value contrast, Batman!) comic of a queen asking the enemy warlord who is her mortal enemy to marry her, I was absolutely hooked on, if still not Zelda, at least the comic A Tale of Two Rulers by figmentforms. Original works draw fans in much the same way. Take Lackadaisy, for instance, which starts with a nice, concise delivery of background information, jumps into an entertaining action situation, and has a beautiful host of minicomics and character bios, all of which could be laid out on the table (and, via the internet, sort of are) for potential fans to read. It’s even how new fandoms are produced by new mass media. Remember all the interesting stuff—character bios, designs, backstory, the dynamically-fascinating, bold, and unique characters themselves—for Overwatch? “Just” a fighting game, and there’s people who’ve never owned a video game console in their lives who adore Reaper and McCree and Symmetra and Soldier 76. Because they know about them, and what they know of them is interesting. The dude on the left is tapping into a vast display consisting of everything everybody knows about the Green Lantern. The dude on the right has no such display to tap into, but he has a table full of empty space to make one; he just needs to use it. -- source link

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