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swan2swan:lasatfat: swan2swan: fialleril: fizzygingr: Didn’t think I’d find myself agreeing with Count Dooku but here I am. Okay but he’s honestly 100% right. This post keeps cropping up and isn’t going away, so here’s my response: Dooku’s wrong. Yoda absolutely sees all of the evils and wrongs that exist in the galaxy. He sees the corruption and flaws, he has seen them for centuries–but what would someone have him do? Yoda could have seized control of the galaxy at any time, far more ruthlessly and efficiently than Sidious ever did. He could have seized control of the Senate, whether by mind-control or the point of a lightsaber, and demanded that they stop their corruption and greed and go forth to fight and free slaves and bring all distant, lawless planets of the galaxy under the protection of the wise, powerful, and good Jedi. He could have pulled the Jedi Order away from the Republic, scattered its members to operate in back alleys and impoverished villages on remote worlds, shunning all the comforts and protection that the Jedi became accustomed to… But he didn’t, because he is not the Sith. What Yoda does, instead, is speak to children. He trains them from youth to help the helpless and put the needs of others before their own. He teaches adults to heed the words of youth, and ensures that the next generation will retain the wisdom that he has found. He watches them and raises them again and again–and most importantly, he grants every being around him the freedom to choose. Not once has Yoda ever demanded that a Jedi remain in the Order. No Jedi is a prisoner–Dooku and Ahsoka were both allowed to leave, and when Anakin was considering abandoning the order as a child, Yoda gave Obi-Wan the freedom to follow his student, if he chose. Even when Luke Skywalker, the next-to-last hope of the galaxy, chose to hurry away from his unfinished training and rush into certain death, Yoda let him go. He could have picked up the ship and sunk it back into the swamp, he could have overpowered Luke and forced him to remain, but he did not–not because of complacency or corruption, but because he would never force his own will upon someone. Dooku’s belief stems from a desire to control and find perfection. He can’t accept that people will make wrong decisions and hurt others while remaining unpunished–Dooku understands what the galaxy needs, and so it is Dooku who will determine what is right and what is wrong. His resulting actions–actions that Yoda could have taken at any time–resulted in the slaughter of trillions and a war that ripped the galaxy in two before locking it within the iron grip of Darth Sidious. He earned the name “Tyrannus” because he believed that people could be made to follow morals and ideals by force. Yoda has smelled the stench of corruption for almost nine hundred years, but he has never ignored it. He has simply never allowed it to spread to him, and fought to keep those around him from being corrupted in turn. I can’t believe this has to be explained but there is a world of difference between enforcing your will on someone and offering help to disenfranchised people. You can’t set the Jedi up as protectors of freedom in the galaxy, then do fuck-all to achieve that end, and after all that claim that you’re doing the right thing. And in the case of slavery, the Jedi wouldn’t even be going against the “will of the people” or whatever if they worked to end it, because slavery has been made illegal in the Republic. Slaves’ freedom is more important than their masters’ wills! And what about the slaves’ wills to be free? What argument are you even trying to make with this line of discussion? (And let’s not forget that Dooku did fuck-all to help the slaves of Tatooine either. Dooku wants power, he doesn’t want to help anyone but himself). And this is exactly how a young, good-hearted young man brought about the doom of the galaxy. Weiterlesen For a start: Star Wars has a long history of villains saying the truth. It is Vader who discloses to Luke who he really is, it is Maul who tells Ahsoka that Anakin, the Chosen One, is the key to everything, Kylo Ren telling Rey about Luke’s failure which brought down his temple. That Dooku is a villain does not mean he’s wrong. The Sith are outsiders in a world where the Jedi are seen as the heroes not only because they do bad things but also because they see and speak about the Jedi’s failures. (For the record, Kylo wasn’t even a Sith.)The problem with being a Jedi fan is wanting to see the world in a black / white pattern. The Jedi are not evil but having good intentions doesn’t mean that you can’t sometimes be wrong. When Luke decides to throw his saber away before Palpatine and to forgive his father it’s not the Jedi thing to do, but it’s the right thing to do.The Jedi pretend that compassion is essential to their lives. We see them again and again in situations where they could have acted out of compassion but chose not to, claiming it was “for the greater good”.I wrote a long meta about this some months ago: compassion must be taught and lived by. Yet the Jedi are taught not to have attachments, and as they do not learn to feel compassion for individuals, they do not learn to have compassion for groups - like slaves or populations at war.It’s easy to say “What were they supposed to do?” Anything is better than sitting in your ivory tower saying wise-sounding words, or fomenting a war for years with the conviction that once “your side” has won, everything will be all right.No, the Jedi can’t go out into the galaxy and solve all problems on their own, but the problem is that people expect them to. The oppressed people in the galaxy look to them as the “keepers of peace and justice in the galaxy” and are let down over and over. They and their fans see them as invincible, all-wise heroes and overlook their many failures.Being a Jedi ought to mean giving people spiritual solace; to teach the ways of the Force; to encourage people to help each other. But they don’t. Their attitude is like “Just listen to us or be like us, and everything will be all right”.One of the things that always irritated me about the prequel trilogy is how the magical spark of the classic movies was missing. One of the reasons for that was the fact that the Force is hardly even mentioned and is only used to make things float or trick people’s minds from time to time. It is a power tool, not an all-encompassing energy that keeps everything together. The Jedi use it, they are not guided by it.Anakin, the son of a slave, was taught by his mother that all evil in the galaxy comes from people not helping each other. Just watch Clone Wars: Anakin does so as long, as far and as much as he can. One of the most frustrating aspects of his Jedi career is that all he does to ensure that people are safe and well is so little acknowledged by the Jedi. He is not “Jedi enough” for them. They try to restrain a young man who acts out of love for his fellowmen. I don’t know where to start emphasizing how f***ed up that is.No one expects the Jedi to solve all problems in the galaxy. No one ought to. There are billions and billions of people and they’re only a few thousand people. They neither can nor should help everybody.But they ought to teach people to do the will of the Force. The Force keeps people together because everyone has it inside of them, whether they’re Force-sensitive or not. The Sith corrupt this energy by tearing people apart, either by killing or by disseminating distrust and encouraging conflicts.And the Jedi don’t see that. They don’t preach love and forgiveness and altruism or serve as a good example. They swing their lightsabers against the bad guys - that is, provided the politicians they serve agree. And these are the good guys?No, the Jedi are not evil. But if you ask me, they’re a bunch of fools. Including Yoda, never mind his wise-sounding words. If compassion is what leads you, dear Yoda, you ought to show it at least once in your 900 years of life. Even if you did, it didn’t change much - the Order you were responsible for so long failed and was erased anyway.Star Wars is not the story of the “Jedi superheroes”. Its origin is the Skywalker trilogy, with Anakin / Vader as the central character. The same person used to be a great hero and then turned into a terrible villain. That couldn’t have happened if the people around him, the place where he grew up and was educated wasn’t flawed somehow. His fall came at the same time the Republic fell and the Jedi Order was obliterated. And we knew all this before the prequels hit theatres.In the prequels or in Clone Wars it is never outright said that the Jedi are failing morally, but it is often shown. They’re not the heroes merely because they’re cool and aloof and, as we know, “boys don’t cry”, so Anakin must be a whiny sissy and deserve what happens to him.Please spare me the “coolness excuses everything” discourse and open your eyes. Who excuses the Jedi is biased. I don’t want to trample on anyone’s hero worship, I want to point out that things can and should be done better than they did. -- source link

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