karmadragonia:leliaana:tbh that’s what really gets to me - that they spent such a large portion of t

karmadragonia:leliaana:tbh that’s what really gets to me - that they spent such a large portion of the games and books (origins, awakening, legacy dlc, the calling, the last flight) establishing the significance of the wardens and how important they are in the fight against the blight  … then come inquisition, they just tossed all that established canon aside and made the wardens look incompetent and clueless so the inquisitor could swoop in and take charge (that last scene where the wardens are looking around like “we dunno what to do o might inquisitor please guide us” is so fucking embarrassing…the rationale apparently being that ~~all senior wardens died~~ which lol i’d find easier to believe if ferelden hadn’t been saved from the blight by a literal fresh recruit (not to mention all of awakening crew being prominent wardens even though they were new members) but ok bioware whatever u say … rolls eyes)But Corypheus’s influence had infiltrated their ranks, and his manipulation of the Blight made them vulnerable to his power? Yeah, okay, the Wardens fucked up. But they were being manipulated by an original Darkspawn. Banishing the Wardens was less about punishing them for messing up, and more about keeping them and everyone else on the Orleisian side of the Frostbacks safe. The order will live on, in other parts of Thedas, and probably come back to Ferelden and Orleis eventually. I think a big part of Inquisition is literally finding and dealing with corruption at the highest levels of almost every major organisation in Thedas. The rebel mages were trapped and manipulated, the Templars were being lead by a demon, the Empress was too busy in-fighting with her cousin and former lover, the Wardens were being manipulated directly by Corypheus… Yes, the Wardens only care about stopping the Blight. But where does one draw the line? It’s up to the Senior Wardens to draw that line, and they were being lied to and manipulated! Any power, for good or evil, who bows to no one is going to start making increasingly extreme choices. Their ‘choice’ in Inquisition went too far; they started trying to summon bloody demons! Demons vs Darkspawn? No thank you. There comes a point when it has to stop, and the Inquisition was there to step in. The Wardens are still important and still around, just weakened. Needing to rebuild. Maybe the Hero of Ferelden will re-create the Wardens when the next Blight comes? Go and conscript a bunch of people? Thedas will want the Wardens around to fight the Darkspawn. The Inquisition can’t do that. “wasn’t about punishing them for messing up” really? those “grey wardens have gone too far” and “wardens are a relic of past” speeches didn’t give that impression. banishing the wardens had nothing to do with concern for the safety of the masses when you can literally profit off their downfall in the very next cut scene, using their fuck-up to gain influence without any concern for the well being of the wardens themselves lol also if safety was really the concern here why send them away with barely any escort if they’re so ~vulnerable to corypheus’ manipulation~lmao @ the way the game posits the wardens summoning demons as The Ultimate Unforgivable Crime when the wardens have been using extremely questionable means to fight the blight since day one. they lie to their recruits, put them through a ritual that involves blood magic - to which they have to either consent or be killed - a ritual that most of them don’t even survive. those that do end up with a drastically shorted lifespan. their entire fucking order is built on shady magic and self sacrifice. because their whole purpose is “fight the blight or die trying” and that’s exactly what they were fucking doing. they thought they were going to die anyway so some of them volunteered to die earlier to give the others a fighting chance to spare the world the horrors of a blight without any wardens to fight them. but suddenly they’re treated like villains for being manipulated cool cool“demons vs darkspawn? no thank you” yeah it’s not like the first blight lasted literally 200 years or that the last two almost wiped antiva and ferelden off the map. the threat of an unrelenting horde of tainted monsters who need neither food nor rest and are singularly bent on destruction leaves very little room for trying the moral high ground the hero of ferelden literally recreated the wardens of ferelden - there was a whole dlc and everything - only for inquisition to toss them aside for shock valuewhy is the inquisition - a brand new organization with no expertise in any of these matters suddenly the authority on “where to draw the line” - especially given that their entire claim to fame is based on a complete lie? who stands up to the inquisition when they go too far, seeing as they effectively have sway over literally every single major organization in southern thedas? that much power is a bad idea, its narrative setup was weak and its consequences are never explored -- source link

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