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Also, it could make it more realistic that he lives by himself except that no one questions that of Makoto. Another theory poised was it was purposely to tone down the romance aspect of his character like - make him more paternalistic toward Usagi (’we’ll be together in the future but for now we’ll be some weird brother/sister dynamic’) the problem was they only kinda half stuck with that and the end result is really odd, especially with Chibs thrown in there. Yeah, there is really no obvious reason to do this, it was a major flub, whatever their reasoning. I still love the 90s anime, I still love anime!Mamoru, but whoever made that decision HAD to be purposely fucking with the source material just because they could. i thought it was weird because where i’m from most people start college at 19, some at 18, but never earlier than that. and at the time i was first watching it (i was a kid, i wasn’t even 10), being 19 was the same to me as 20-25. =D apparently, no one thought of that, so it really turned out creepy =D but what you said definitely makes sense, especially living alone and all his free time Where I live, most college freshman are 18. (I was 17 tho). I’m not sure about Japan, but the issue with Mamoru being “in college” does give the impression of him being older than he is/should’ve been perceived, imo. Putting him in HS would’ve been better, especially since he’s just a teenage kid, and his actions are more understandable through that lens. I don’t think about this that much, since there is nothing we can do, the 90s anime is long over and I’m an expert at handwaving. Plus, fictional, etc. etc. But yeah. It was a weird decision. In Japan, you don’t start 1st grade unless your 6th birthday is after April first, And theres no skipping grades or being “held back” in Japan either, so by that logic, All 12 graders in Japan turn 18 before they graduate. Yeah, in the anime, he’s 18. In the manga, 17. I think the issue is, if that was a necessary change (IMO- no). Yeah. He was in 12th grade in the manga in the first arc. He’d turn 18 during August of his senior year. So in the Infinity arc, when the girls move ahead to 9th grade, he becomes a 1st year in university and turns 19 this year. Then in the Dream arc, when the girls start high school at 10th grade, Mamoru moves up to 2nd year university… and part way through through that year (at the beginning of the stars arc), he makes plans to study abroad. The manga even shows us Usagi holding a calendar and bringing up his birthday “it’s coming up!” in the manga Black Moon arc, and I think that’s his 18th birthday since his stats previously were “17~18” in Luna’s computer (possibly because his birthday was also ‘unknown’ at the time). But the manga makes more sense timeline-wise. Sorry, that manga timeline is incorrect. At the beginning of the Dreams arc, the girls start high school and Mamoru is a 1st-year college student at “KO” (Keio): Mamoru was a 2nd-year high school student when Usagi was a 2nd-year middle school student: So he could have actually been 16 when they met. Luna was just speculating when she noted he was “17-18?” after all. I always assumed he was 17 but I’d jump at the chance to say he was even younger. Does the math work out re: school years? Knowing that there are 3 years in Japanese high school (and middle school), that the Japanese school year begins in April, and that Mamoru’s birthday is in August, we can determine the following: Mamoru’s 2nd year in high school: 16–17 Mamoru’s 3rd year in high school: 17–18 Mamoru’s 1st year at Keio: 18–19 We also know that Usagi and Mamoru met at the very beginning of the manga, which was set at the beginning of the school year, so he could have been 16 when they met. Of course he could very well have been a year older for all of this. He did spend a lot of time in the hospital as a child and could have been held back because of it. (Then again, he’s very smart and he was only 6 when it happened, so that might not have been an issue!) Sold This is important to me and I can never find it! So I’m reblogging it here and tagging it so I can easily find and link to it. For important arguing on the internet reasons. >_> (My favorite part: there’s a roughly one month stretch every year where it looks like they’re two years apart.) Adding on about the motives: The animators wanted to put him in specific clothes, in particular the ugly green jacket we make so much fun of, because it was actual clothing one of the animators wore. I’m guessing, especially looking at the first season and how infrequently Usagi wears street clothes compared to her school uniform, they felt it would make more sense if he was made a college student rather than a high school student so they could justify him wearing normal clothes instead of a high school uniform and driving flashy cars and doing other “cool” things. Jumping in on this age old (ha!) debate, here’s a thing that only recently occurred to me:His age might have honestly simply been a mistake. Hear me out: The first manga volume came out in Nakayoshi’s Feb issue of ‘92. (which came out in late Dec ‘91.) The first EPISODE aired in March of '92. And since episodes need a longer preparation time than a manga chapter, and it’s famously been said the start of the production happened simultaneously…Naoko had previously been working on Sailor V when Toei approached her, got her to the planning table, and was like yeah we want it but make it MORE girls and a bigger scope. So it’s safe to say all ideas were new. When we see Mamoru for the first time in the manga, he stands in front of Osa-P in his TUX, no age indicated but what we infer from his choice of attire. And like, evening wear doesn’t exactly SCREAM high school student. In the anime, of course, his outfit had been altered and we see him in front of Osa-P (and in direct after-school hours since that’s where Usagi was coming from) in the green jacket and NOT a tux - or a school uniform which would have been expected for a high school student at this time of day if we didn’t want him to be seen as someone who skips school to plot gentlemen-thief-robbing jewelry shops during school hours. And Luna DID guess him 17 to 18. We don’t see him push his student ID into Usagi’s face until the third volume of the manga - by which time a few episodes had already been produced and the green jacket been worn. So honestly, they might just have gotten it wrong and then stuck with it. Maybe even Naoko hadn’t been so sure of the details at the beginning! Stuff changes as you write it, as any writer knows. It might simply have been “too late” for green jacket anime!Mamoru and they just went ♀️ and stuck with their interpretation. That was kind of my thoughts too. I suspect this also is why Rei is so different between the two versions. In Rei’s first anime episode she is only somewhat grumpier than Rei from manga chapter 3, and even then mostly towards Jadeite and not Usagi. She displays an interest in Tuxedo Mask a little bit, but (correct me if I am wrong) but Rei’s first manga chapter doesn’t mention her feelings towards men one way or the other. IIRC Chapter 4 does but only in a brief bit of dialogue. So, I personally suspect the anime staff were extrapolating from what little they knew about Rei and constructing her to then fit into the format of a weekly anime. From that POV, her being more fiery and agressive fit well with her fire powers and they just didn’t know about her disliking men (or didn’t realize based upon early chapters that it was going to be relevant to her character beyond a few off hand lines in chapter 4). After they set the precedent though they maybe couldn’t have course corrected. it was too late.I think a lot of people presume the production of the anime was like most manga adaptations where the manga gets big after a while and then the anime starts adapting it pretty much 1:1, with filler to buy time for the author. Sailor Moon was never like that.**As a side note, I think that is also why a lot of people slam the 90s anime for changes to the manga in general when it was never an adaptation the way most anime adaptations of manga are. I compare it more to say Western cartoons that adapt comic books. They retain ideas, concepts, themes, but they change a lot of stuff too because they are aiming it at a different audience in a different format. Same concepts through a different lens you might say.The 90s anime is about as faithful to the manga as the 90s X-Men or Batman cartoons were to the corresponding Batman or X-men comic books. -- source link