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dancinbutterfly:omg-whydidimakethisaccount:dancinbutterfly:omg-whydidimakethisaccount:my-queue-is-too-long:grown-up-dress-up:rslashrats:twitter is just full of bad tweets today huhI think adult society especially western society oversexualizes things so fucking much it’s ridiculous. I know I have messed up associations with adulthood because it’s like automatically involves sex. And it fucking sucks. I remember being 12 getting boobs and immediately feeling gross and sexual and refusing to hug people since because I’m uncomfortable with my new “adult” body. Labeling fandom in general an adult space and making everything that you enjoy “adult content” just because you are an adult and you enjoy it is alienating. It Makes fandom spaces uncomfortable. Idk if I’m saying this clearly enough I’m just trying to say fandom is an open thing. And trying to make it just for adults and comparing fandom to strip clubs is divisive and stupid. Um the original post was saying there are Parts of fandom that are sexualised- not the whole thing- and that if you’re a minor it’s super easy to avoid or not go into the ‘strip club section’ of fandom and not bitch that it exists. They didn’t label fandom in general as an adult space. Like— the replies are proving the quoted post right The post about hypothetical children sneaking into a strip club and being suprised there are strippers? And apparently no adult in this situation finds it odd to see children alone in Las Vegas?If a hypothetical child is alone in hypothetical Las Vegas - that’s not the responsibility of the hypothetical strip clubs, fam. That’s the responsibility of the fucking hypothetical parents/guardians of the hypothetical children. That’s the piece of this argument that the Save The Children branch of fandom chooses, repeatedly, to ignore. Parents/guardians/real life adults have a fucking responsibility to monitor kids internet because no one has a face, anyone can lie, and once you get to a certain point, there’s no way to know. An 45 year old adult can claim they’re 12 years old just as easily as a 14 year old can claim they’re 25. The only real barrier, the only ones who can actually notice the kid lost in Vegas, is their real life adults. In addition, the hypothetical strip club in this scenario has a bouncer at the door and a No Minors Allowed policy (tags, ratings, an entire set of information systems that explicity say DONT FUCKING COME IN IF YOU ARE A MINOR). Yet when a minor sneaks (key word you’re ignoring here is SNEAK, meaning to do so covertly despite being told not to) people get mad at the thing for existing? Please. That’s not on the adult activity for existing. That’s on the kid and the kid’s parents. Do parental control filters not exist anymore? Are adults not monitoring child web activity? Because I know I’m An Old and everything but when I was a kid sneaking (again, sneaking meaning to covertly do something without being detected) into the hypothetical strip-clubs of fandom, I know I had to do mad fucking research to figure out how to get around all the blocks, web nannies, and other systems purposely designed to keep me out and then LIE ABOUT MY AGE. At some point, folks, you have to acknowledge that minors are people with wills who can make choices. They may be terri-bad choices but there’s a difference between providing a separation between the adult and the juvenile and forbidding the adult to exist so juveniles won’t ever see it. Because that’s…what youre asking. You’re asking for the adult to exist so the juvenile will never encounter it. And truly, this is the first time in all of human history that expectation has existed. Don’t do grown up stuff, guys, the kids might find it. I just always find this shit so fucking ridiculous because it’s always people mad at sexualized fandom for existing and never at the ADULTS IN CHARGE of these hypothetical “children alone in Las Vegas” for letting their children get lost in the Hypothetical Vegas in the first place. Like…oh no you’re a minor alone on the internet…. but like…where the fuck are your adults? Because if you’re a minor, at this point, you’re the child of a GenXer or a millennial and news flash, both of those groups know how to use a fucking computer. You wanna get mad about lost innocence? Okay. That’s super valid. But get mad at the right person - the authority figure who failed the kid. Cuz man, having existed during the Free Non-Corporate Internet and The Nebulous Space Before Internet Was Everything, I promise you kids have been finding porn forever - be it in playboy magazines, romance novels, or poorly labeled tapes. I found almost as much unsecured pornography lying around the homes of my friends left carelessly by parents and older siblings and on cable TV as ever on the internet - but only ever when the adults in charge weren’t fucking paying attention to me or locking shit down. So if you want to protect kids? That’s good. It should be done. But I’m begging any of you guys to be realistic and understand that shit starts at home. Cuz when a hypothetical kid sneaks(once more, for those with reading comprehension issues - sneak, meaning to act without detection and often in direct opposition of the established rules and monitoring systems) into a hypothetical strip club, it’s not the hypothetical strip club that’s a problem, its the hypothetical kid’s hypothetical caretakers. But getting mad at parents’ and guardians and demanding accountability from them on a cultural scale is neither easy nor allows an individual to exert control over the things in the world that frighten and upset them. So no one who self-identifies as an “anti” is ever going to focus on that when they can just shit talk people on the internet who make content they don’t like instead. I stopped reading after the first sentence because THAT IS LITERALLY PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A STRIP CLUB OMGThen you ignored the part where I said “It has things in place to keep kids out.” and that sneaking means , according to Webster “to go stealthily or furtively” (included the link cuz, uh, you didn’t seem to understand what sneak means) and also? You also proved my thesis for me. It’s much easier to get mad at adult things for existing, despite having barriers to entry to keep juvenile audiences out, than at parents and guardians for not monitoring their own children. -- source link