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eriklovescharles: ikeracity: gerec: jabletown: black—betty: kakabestplayer: fassbendover: erik you put a bullet in the dudes spine and left him stranded on a beach im p sure youre not in a posistion to talk about abandoning people 100% agreed! On the one hand, this kills me because OBVIOUSLY CHARLES WAS STRUGGLING A BIT WITH THE NEW PARALYSIS AND THE LOSS OF THE ONLY TWO FRIENDS HE HAD (three, if you count Moira). DAMMIT ERIK. On the other hand, I feel like this speaks to Erik’s need for Charles to be the kind of saviour messiah he was becoming in First Class, and that he fully embodies in the later films. Charles is the only one, I think, Erik sees as his equal, and for Charles to give up his power, to give up on the quest they set out on in First Class….for Erik that is inherently wrong. He NEEDS Charles. Even if they’re not together, he needs Charles to work for their people… And that Charles stepped back from the cause, the cause that Erik places above any and all other priorities, including his own happiness, that Charles gave up his ability for something so human when Erik needs him more than ever, Erik can’t understand that. The key word here, to me, is “US.” Not them. Not their students or followers. Charles abandoned their people, the cause and Erik as well. Putting the blame on Charles for Angel and Azazel (and Emma and Sean!??) is unfair, absolutely, but I think that Erik takes the burden of protecting all mutants onto his shoulders and he sees Charles as someone who should share that burden. And that Charles didn’t… I DON’T KNOW. FEELINGS. UGH ERIK. oh my glob betty yes. that. yes. yesssss. while erik never agrees with charles, he thinks charles is indispensable. he thinks the school is necessary. and like many people have posited in fic that gives us old man cherik, i don’t think erik ever saw their break up as a permanent departure. erik sees the brotherhood and fighting the government as work he has to do right now. and charles being there with the school is a necessary part of the mutant community they both wanted to build. but i think he always saw himself as eventually going to back to charles. one day. but for charles using mutant power to hurt humans, or separate from humans altogether, was a line in the sand. and for charles that was end of it. and if they’d taken more than 10 INCREDIBLY FRAUGHT MINUTES ON A BEACH SURROUNDED BY DEBRIS AND BATTLE SHIPS maybe they could have compromised a little. ^^^ SERIOUSLY ALL OF THIS. I think it’s pretty easy to feel for Charles in this scene because a) you bloody well SHOULD omg and b) he’s the one really showing us (shouting) his pain and anger. But I think seeing Charles again after all these years must be KILLING Erik. I just think that Erik will always see what happened on the beach as Charles’ choice, being the one to reject him, choosing the humans over Erik’s friendship and their partnership, taking back Charles’ invitation for the two of them to lead mutants TOGETHER. SIDE BY SIDE. I think Erik let Charles give him hope (against his better judgement) and then (from Erik’s POV) smashed that hope to smithereens and he will never forget it and never stop seeing it as a personal betrayal… P.S. I always forget what a dick Magneto can be until I watch one of the movies again lol… I was just talking with roz about this. Charles is, of course, struggling with pain and grief from having his life changed so radically, which makes his anger understandable. But we agreed that there is merit to Erik’s anger as well. He’s been locked up for 10 years. Even after they parted on the beach, I’m sure Erik expected Charles to continue the fight for mutantkind, if not in Erik’s way then in his own way. Whatever they disagreed on, they never disagreed on the fact that they would have to fight for their kind once mutants became common knowledge. Obviously they disagreed on methodology (with Charles pushing for nonviolence and negotiation and Erik taking an uncompromising aggressive tack), but Erik would never have expected Charles to just…give up. To stop fighting. And that, I think, is the root of his anger in this scene and why it makes sense for him to feel abandoned. That Charles hasn’t fought at all is a huge letdown to him. Even after the beach, he believed in Charles, even if he didn’t believe in his methods. They were meant to be fighting the same war, even if they were fighting in different ways, and to realize that Charles gave up on not only himself but on them—I can see where Erik’s fury stems from. Absolutely. You nailed it. And I feel the same way. Erik is upset because Charles did nothing. Erik had to be shocked too? Charles is a very powerful mutant. But Charles decided to hide in his home? The Xavier home got locked up? No safe haven? Now, if you move forward 10, 20, 30, 40 years - all this will make sense. You can now see why Professor Xavier will have the message that his home is open to all mutants. He doesn’t judge your past. He will give anyone safe haven. Which is probably (at least for me) the most POWERFUL message that Charles Xavier reveals in the X-Men saga. We come to see Saint Charles. But he had to pay his dues to get there which of course is the whole point of the movie. And, I like to believe that for Charles Xavier (the man); he will carry in his heart the pain of those dead mutants and those wasted ten years forever. And yes, something that powerful will (and does) change Charles Xavier. He will become Professor X. The bullet and beach scene - that was an accident. He wouldn’t hold it against Moira or Erik. That would poison his soul if he did that shit. No.I like to think that Charles will never forget those ten years. The young mutants he didn’t reach out to in those horrible sad years. This movie is about moving forward - learning lessons - and if we all get stuck in 1962. Well. What good will that do anyone? -- source link