rufustfirefly:Stephen: The Garden of Eden. That’s where good and evil started.Philip Zimbardo: Why
rufustfirefly: Stephen: The Garden of Eden. That’s where good and evil started.Philip Zimbardo: Why did the devil make Adam and Eve eat the apple?Stephen: Because he disobeyed the authority of God. He was non-conformist, doing his own thing, letting it all hang out, and he did not want to serve the ultimate authority like you say he shouldn’t and he turned out to be the ultimate evil. I’m sorry, the title of the book turns the argument on its head.Philip Zimbardo: No. Lucifer is God’s favorite angel, right?Stephen: Until he disobey’s, go ahead.Philip Zimbardo: But why does he disobey, because God says I have just created this perfect creature, Adam, and everybody had to obey him, and Lucifer says, ‘wait a minute, it’s a mortal. Mortals are corruptible, we’re angels. I refuse.’ And that’s disobedience of authority, so the reason Lucifer as the devil seduced Adam is to say God, I’m right and you’re wrong. This guy is corruptible, he’s not somebody we should respect. He is just an ordinary mortal.Stephen: But in that case, Lucifer was right.Philip Zimbardo: Lucifer was right and God was wrong. If God was into reconciliation he would have said I made a mistake. God created hell, paradoxically, it was God who created hell as a place to put Lucifer and the fallen angels, and had he not created hell, then evil would not exist.Stephen: No, evil exists because of the disobedience of Satan. God gave Satan, the angels, and man free will. Satan used his free will and abused it by not obeying authority. Hell was created by Satan’s disobedience to God and his purposeful removal from God’s love, which is what hell is, removing yourself from God’s love. You send yourself to hell, God does not send you there.Philip Zimbardo: Obviously, you learned well in Sunday School.Stephen: I teach Sunday School, motherfucker. -- source link