thorkys:wonderhope:marchingjaybird:The best thing about Thor, to me, is that even when the Hulk is a
thorkys:wonderhope:marchingjaybird:The best thing about Thor, to me, is that even when the Hulk is actively trying to kill him, his instinct is to appeal to the better nature that he knows exists somewhere inside there. It’s why he won’t give up on Loki, no matter how many awful things Loki does.Because Loki is his brother and he remembers when they were inseparable kids and he knows something went wrong somewhere, but he still believes in the brother that he grew up with.And he barely knows Bruce Banner. They literally just met and Thor is still trying to talk to him, he’s still trying to reach the gentle, rational man that he knows is in there. Because he did learn his lesson, he knows that violence doesn’t have to be the first resort.That’s why Thor is my favorite Avenger, and why it makes me so angry when people characterize him as stupid and only good for punching things.I agree, but it’s very easy to be so optimistic when he had every liberty to do anything he wanted and getting away with a slap on the wrist for it. Loki suffered and was mocked for his whole life because of his nature. In Thor 1 we could clearly see how Thor was the first son, the one who could do no wrong. He was silenced, put aside, disrespected, repeatedly, over his foolish, arrogant, violent brother. He almost started a war, or worse, commited genocide, and got away with a three day sentence in another Realm with food, water and everything, freedom included. AND, let’s be honest here, his “change” was too sudden, caused by an abrupt passion over a mortal woman. Who he spent three days with. Loki, on the other hand, almost did the same thing, yes - but his reasons, rather than foolishness, were that he was betrayed by his father and mother, he was raised to believe his own kind was something to be despised. His family was never really his family, he never fit in, Odin never respected him - as didn’t Thor, etc, etc, etc. Loki bringing Ragnarok is another version of those shootings in USA’s school to me. You can only step a number of times over someone’s dignity before they start ripping things apart. And Thor always valued his shield-brothers over almost everything. I like Thor, but I still think he’s a bit too innocent and arrogant. Maybe it’s the “raised to be king” stuff, but I don’t like it. I don’t disagree with you, I think of Loki the same way but I feel like a lot of this is fanon.We don’t actually see Thor valuing his shield-brothers over everything for example. He seems to value life in general, everyone’s. I do agree his change was way too abrupt, I thought that was one of the downsides of the movies, it didn’t truly show Thor changing and the reasons were ???Another is “Loki suffered and was mocked for his whole life” while I always believed this, I now look back and don’t actually see any proof of this in the movies? Only Loki’s words and Loki is biased. There is something called mood congruent memory bias, which basically means when we are happy we remember the good times more readily, and when sad, the bad times. Loki is upset (for good reason) in the movies so he accuses everyone of the worst and it makes sense, but we don’t actually see it so it is hard to verify exactly what happened, Loki might remember the same events differently or only the bad events. The generally held belief is everything you said, and it’s one I can easily see but again, we don’t actually see it in canon so a lot of it is just us assuming.There is no doubting that Loki was treated unfairly in comparison to Thor in the movies for essentially the same thing by Odin, but from Thor or Frigga I do not see it when I look at the situation from Thor or Frigga’s point of view. We have to consider Loki does not tell Thor or Frigga what’s going on, and I feel as if he may have kept a lot of his feelings to himself and not mentioned them until the films, so it catches everyone by surprise and no one gets it. There is also the torture which Thor still does not know about. I can’t even see anything post Thor 1 as utterly Loki’s fault if Loki was essentially tortured to do it, but again… Thor does not know this. Actually, despite Loki’s pretty big lies to Thor in Thor 1, Thor still asks Loki to come home, insists that Loki is still his brother and that he mourned him. All that aside, I feel the movie doesn’t do a good job of characterizing the characters as they want us to perceive them. We are supposed to view Loki as a terrible villain for example, but a great number of people have a hard time seeing that. -- source link