purified-zone:purified-zone:purified-zone:can I get some advice on how to respond to something this

purified-zone:purified-zone:purified-zone:can I get some advice on how to respond to something this fucking insanenah m8 i was asking Internet how we, as a civilization, respond to this kind of absurdity …?I know trutherbot up there’s just a ridiculous troll but I hate these arguments and here’s how you respond to them, knowing that those who present them won’t be convinced so why bother.Taxes are directly authorized by the US Constitution:Article 1 Section 2 Paragraph 3, as Modified by the 14th Amendment:“Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed…” Article 1 Section 7:All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills. Article 1 Section 8:The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; …To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.“Necessary and Proper for carrying into Execution” also covers funding. Article 1 Section 9, as Modified by the 16th Amendment:The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.Note that, even without the 16th:No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.Direct taxes(including a head-tax[that’s what capitation literally means]; a tax on people for just being alive in the US) could still be laid so long as they were based on a national census. This is one reason why Republicans are not only against taxes, but also against the Census(which is also directly mandated by the US Constitution).Now, having said that, a Carbon Tax is not a tax on breathing. It’s a tax on corporate carbon emissions. Corporations produce carbon as a waste-emission from their functioning, same as they produce any other form of waste. When a corporation just dumps their waste on the environment rather than paying to properly dispose of it, we call this pollution. When corporations do this, everyone else ends up paying for their waste rather than them. This isn’t right; it wouldn’t be right if your neighbor dumped their trash into your yard or apartment, and it isn’t right when a corporate neighbor dumps their trash into the yards, water, and air of their neighbors. All a Carbon Tax is in theory, is a way to charge corporations for the clean up their carbon-dumping necessitates. I say in theory, because very few polities have actually established carbon taxes. The EU uses a “Carbon Credit” system that turns the right to pollute specific amounts into a commodity corporations can buy on a market -established, as all markets are, by government- and non-polluting polities can “create” for the market by undertaking actions that, presumably, remove carbon from the environment(like planting trees). Unfortunately, even this system has historically been improperly priced for the costs carbon imposes, and that’s also a practical problem with carbon tax systems: ensuring that they don’t undercharge. But none of that stuff about what a Carbon Tax actually is matters, because Congress has the authority to lay any tax whatsoever for any reason whatsoever, and it has had that power since the ratification, provided it was proportional to a census. If The US Congress in 1780 had decided, for whatever reason, to establish a tax each individual in the US must pay extrapolating from a census and the average volume of oxygen used by various sizes of humans in a year, they absolutely could have done that. That would have been a breathing tax, and Congress absolutely had the power then to lay one, and has the power now to lay one. It doesn’t not because it lacks the authority to, but because it’s a ridiculous way to levy a tax. Carbon Taxes are not “Breathing Taxes” unless you consider factories to be lungs of the “corporate person”, and their emissions to be “breaths”, in which case you ought to equally object to all other air-pollution regulations as bills of attainder designed to legally require corporations suffocate themselves.Another thing I’d add: trutherbot’s claims are dumb lies, and anybody who makes them to you thinks you are a gullible fool. Believing or presenting them as the truth proves that liar right. So trutherbot is, obviously and regardless of their intentions, the goddamnedest idiot-huckleberry to ever fall off the turnip truck and somehow manage to knock their empty head upon every stupid-plank upon that grand truckbed of incompetence on their way to landing, comically, in a cow-pie and declaring it chocolate mousse. -- source link

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