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piggledy-higgledy:thenightling:piggledy-higgledy:thenightling:piggledy-higgledy:simonalkenmayer:uncleromeo:youneedtoletmechange:ww84:THE SHAPE OF WATER (2017) dir. Guillermo del ToroThese are the best tags @puddle–wonderful Finally it begins to make sense.But…have you asked the monster if they’re comfortable with it? Consent is consent. Flirting is fun at times, but…some of the confessions I receive are above and beyond my boundaries. Boundaries should apply in the same way that they should apply in interactions between humans -I would think that’s obvious.This is similar to the difference between Character Fics and Real Person Fics. I don’t think it’s the genre of “monster fucking” that’s the issue, the problem is the way that some people choose to engage with the object of their …fantasy? I guess?She literally asks him first via sign language. There’s literally a consent scene in this movie. Also, the novelization is partly narrated by him. He’s actually very intelligent, he just doesn’t speak out loud. @simonalkenmayer @piggledy-higgledy“Do you ever read the books you burn?” - Clarisse in Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury. @thenightling -I (and Simon, I think) were actually referring back to a previous, ongoing discussion. The creature in The Shape Of Water clearly consents (and it’s a beautiful film.)Ah, I was too defensive. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come across posts claiming she r-ped a dumb animal. And them hiding behind “even a monkey can be taught sign language.” Yeah, after several years and only rudimentary communication. This creature learns full phrases just from seeing them once.I apologize . I’ve grown tense from defending this film for four-years-now.Oh God, nothing like that here! I don’t blame you for being defensive in that context! (For reference, the ongoing discussion has to do with the reasons behind exophilia and to what degree it has to do with seeing ourselves in the “other” vs sexualising/objectifying the “other”.)I love that film fwiw -it’s very tender and touching and all-around lovely.Yes, I realized a moment too late the context of your conversation. I had mistakenly thought you were suggesting there wasn’t consent given in this film and I immediatley had late 2017 / early 2018 flashbacks. Carry on. :-P -- source link