stripedroseandsketchpads:elucubrare:cela dit, this is – well, I got as far as “litera&rd
stripedroseandsketchpads:elucubrare:cela dit, this is – well, I got as far as “litera” in “literally the worst Joan of Arc take” before I realized that that wasn’t true – a Very Bad Joan of Arc Take that manages to completely ignore historical context. I was going to say, too, that Jeanne’s trial was “a mess” but Shaw’s covered that for me: CHARLES. Your mother and brothers have sued the courts to have your case tried over again. And the courts have declared that your judges were full of corruption and cozenage, fraud and malice.JOAN. Not they. They were as honest a lot of poor fools as ever burned their betters.Jeanne’s trial was, then, clearly political, and Charles VII the Well-Served wasn’t blameless in her death, but it wasn’t her government that burned her! It was an act of symbolic warfare! If someone on the opposite side of the disastrous war you’re carrying on for some reason* claims to speak to God & that helps them win battles, getting them declared a witch and a fraud and a heretic is pretty sensible! Also Charles didn’t abandon her because she was a woman, he abandoned her because i) he was a coward**; ii) she was, admittedly, giving slightly bad and overconfident military advice (pressing one’s advantage is good; advancing all the way into enemy territory for the sake of a symbolic victory is less good and iii) here, again, Shaw speaks for me: DUNOIS. There is, in England. And now tell me, all of you, which of you will lift a finger to save Joan once the English have got her? I speak first, for the army. The day after she has been dragged from her horse by a goddam or a Burgundian, and he is not struck dead: the day after she is locked in a dungeon, and the bars and bolts do not fly open at the touch of St Peter’s angel: the day when the enemy finds out that she is as vulnerable as I am and not a bit more invincible, she will not be worth the life of a single soldier to us; and I will not risk that life, much as I cherish her as a companion-in-arms.***anyway I love Jeanne and there are many Jeanne-related hills I’ll die on but this is a horrible take historically.Thank you!! She wasn’t killed by her own people, I have such trouble explaining this to people #ALSO it wasnt a Protestant/Catholic thing they were all CatholicWHAT do people literally not know when the Reformation was, I am Bad With Dates too but I’m not an actual century off -- source link
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