itsyourloss:convertedinvader:itsyourloss:zeitgeistmovement:convertedinvader:convertedinvader:No, it
itsyourloss:convertedinvader:itsyourloss:zeitgeistmovement:convertedinvader:convertedinvader:No, it isn’t. It’s perfectly acceptable.It gets the point through, and even though the punchline has to do with rape, it is not presented in a way that would even imply endorsing it. Considering that, any claim that it is unacceptable is an infringement upon the artist’s rights.To put it simply, anything and everything can be joked about. Even the most horrible things.Thank you. It’s absurd how often people blame depictions of problems rather than the problems themselves.People will be “offended” by anything because we strive off of that emotional reaction rather than thinking logically about our situation. By creating a “taboo” about showing reality - we begin to censor that reality out of fear of being “politically correct”.This cartoon that I found accurately depicts what is happening and I stand by it without fear of how people will be “offended” by it. If we were comfortable with what is going on - then it would be a problem.Being “offended” is a good sign. Everything can be joked about. That doesn’t mean it should be. Rape jokes are never, ever funny nor are they acceptable.However, this is not a rape joke. For one, it is not the artist’s intention to compare rape to something far less devastating or to belittle the effects of rape. For two, the artist seemed to very explicitly use the word ‘violated’ rather than ‘molested’ or ‘raped’. Molestation and rape have very specific meanings, despite the less literal definitions they hold. The term ‘violated’ holds the same definition when used in certain contexts, yes, but is generally not used specifically for that. It kind of surprises me that I haven’t seen these arguments made, and instead you chose this route.You’re basically being apologetic for your own views when you say that rape jokes are never acceptable, then go on to say how this is acceptable. Of course, you can try to skew views by saying “but this is not a rape joke!”, and presenting a convoluted definition of what a “rape joke” is supposed to be:>However, this is not a rape joke. For one, it is not the artist’s intention to compare rape to something far less devastating or to belittle the effects of rape.Excuse me, but no. A rape joke is simply a joke about rape, whether it belittles it or not.>For two, the artist seemed to very explicitly use the word ‘violated’ rather than ‘molested’ or ‘raped’. Molestation and rape have very specific meanings, despite the less literal definitions they hold. The term ‘violated’ holds the same definition when used in certain contexts, yes, but is generally not used specifically for that.First of all, “violated” is a common euphemism for “raped”, second, let’s take a look at the image… Planned Parenthood, pregnant girl, was “violated”… I believe it quite clearly implies rape. So despite your excuses, it is indeed *gasp* a rape joke!Now that we got that out of the way, you just need to come to terms with the fact that you have no authority on what is funny or acceptable. If it’s not funny to you, don’t laugh. That’s entirely within your rights. Telling everyone else that they must not find it funny either, in essence establishing a taboo just because you personally find it offensive, however, is not.Okay, let’s take a second and back this gravy train right up.The entire reason rape jokes are not acceptable are because they belittle the effects of rape. I have never seen a rape joke that is just a joke that involves rape and doesn’t belittle it or normalize it or anything. I don’t quite understand how I’m going against my own views when I clearly stated that this is not a rape joke. Just because the concept of rape exists within a political cartoon does not make it a joke about rape. It doesn’t even necessarily make it a joke.The point of this cartoon is not to make people laugh. It’s not a funny statement, it’s a sad one meant to express grief with the damage being done by the government. I do not see a joke anywhere here, especially one about rape. It’s that exact attitude that creates rape culture. I’m not sure how rape is ever funny or acceptable. If you’d like to enlighten me, please do.>I have never seen a rape joke that is just a joke that involves rape and doesn’t belittle it or normalize it or anything.Take a look at the above picture, that you earlier deemed acceptable.>I don’t quite understand how I’m going against my own views when I clearly stated that this is not a rape joke. Just because the concept of rape exists within a political cartoon does not make it a joke about rape.However, when rape is the main topic of a joke, that is in fact a rape joke. And the above cartoon’s whole point is comparing PP’s situation to getting raped.>It doesn’t even necessarily make it a joke.Perhaps more satire than a simple joke, but satire is still a form of humor.>I’m not sure how rape is ever funny or acceptable. If you’d like to enlighten me, please do.Since you asked me to…I never claimed that rape is funny or acceptable. It’s a heinous crime. However, equating rape jokes with rape is quite frankly absurd. The whole point of a joke is to present something in a humorous way. In other words, a joke does not imply that its topic is funny in general; it’s the joke’s purpose to be funny. And deeming any joke unacceptable is a form of censorship, as I am quite certain I commit no crime by finding something funny.Also, that Wikipedia link is quite disappointing. I thought Wikipedia at least tries to be unbiased. -- source link