feminists-against-feminism: x-tosca: cheshireinthemiddle:angerydome: politicaldiscoursejunkie: chesh
feminists-against-feminism: x-tosca: cheshireinthemiddle:angerydome: politicaldiscoursejunkie: cheshireinthemiddle:adama1221: passinnotesinsecrecy: this is my favourite poem ever It isnt “toxic masculinity”. It is misandry and body shaming. In the same way that mocking a woman’s boob size is misogyny and body shaming. We need to learn to recognize sexism when it happen to men instead of creating new phrases to avoid doing just that. If a woman’s doing shitty behavior, I’m pretty sure that makes it Toxic Femininity. There’s nothing inherently masculine about this. When I was introduced to the idea of Toxic Masculinity a decade ago, anything that fell under the purview of “this is what a man should be” that was harmful to men was “toxic masculinity”. So on the flip side, things like body shaming women for boob size would be “toxic femininity” no matter who is doing it because it’s about ideals around femininity.I think this is where people talk past each other.Toxic Masculinity DOES NOT MEAN any given man acting in ways that are generally shitty. It is ALSO NOT (as I’ve seen some people misinterpret it) a judgement on masculinity or men as a whole. It’s meant to refer to masculine “ideals” that hurt men on some level.That said, the OP is also an example of a woman being a much bigger dick than the one she desires. @angerydome it’s a sexist term with no female equivalent. Anything to avoid calling it sexism. Especially when it’s coming from women. Men who body shame women are rightfully called sexists. Misogynists. But women who body shame men do not receive the same treatment apparently. “Toxic masculinity” covers gender neutral things (things women do like objectify and body shame, and even being manipulative), gender roles (which women also face), and sterotypes. We call it sexism when it happens to women. But because activists cant stand including men as victims of sexism, a new term that gendered behavior came to be. So we can pretend to care about men, but still blame them. Toxic masculinity means a SPECIFIC thing though, and it does in fact have a female equivalent- “toxic femininity”.As angerydome said- it’s not about men being shitty, or even an excuse to hate men- it’s about the ideals of what a man “should be”- for instance, “men shouldn’t show emotions, men need to be tough”, etc etc. That type of specific “what defines a REAL man” ideals is what is referred to as toxic masculinity- just like people saying women should always be polite and act submissive and want to be mothers and be “ladylike” would be toxic femininity. Toxic masculinity and toxic femininity ARE both also sexist, however sexism is not inherently toxic masculinity/femininity. There is a distinction, as well as some overlap.General Sexism: “Men suck, I hate men. All men are assholes, kill all men. -generalizing negative statements about men in general.-”Toxic Masculinity: “This man is a pussy because he cries sometimes lol, what a lil bitch. REAL men don’t CRY.”Get the point? ALL OF YOU OBVIOUS PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS ESPOUSING PTA POLICY NONSENSE ARE BEING REDICULOUS. ALL OF YOU STOP IT AND BE WEIRD FOR A CHANGE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. Its like you were all raised rainbow colored gulags and have stockholm syndrome. The relgion was bestowed on you to enslaved your mind and now that your free, you retain the religion and enslave yourselves - if i may borrow a metaphor from probably MalcomX. -- source link