notfaquarl:skooth:bhavatarini:myblacksexuality:poetofwar333:#cleopatra with the nose knocked off. I
notfaquarl:skooth:bhavatarini:myblacksexuality:poetofwar333:#cleopatra with the nose knocked off. I wonder if people still think she was European like the movies betray…I still think it’s one of the most desperate things whites have done to blacks and to black history. The disrespect is outrageous. They came to our country and mentally could not fathom how these black civilizations could be so great. They literally rode through our lands and shot the noses off of our statues. Why? So that the statues would no longer resemble the African people and they could LIE about the origins of Egypt and countless other civilizations. It was a widespread practice. It’s why statues of Pharaoh’s and their wives have no noses. It’s why the Sphinx has no nose. When I was in middle and high school, we were taught that the noses had fell off due to time and poor craftsmanship! They have literally tried to teach us that our ancestors were shitty builders of noses just to hide their malicious destruction of our heritage. European fears of African peoples had to come from somewhere. I want to know what part of the history is missing. There’s something that they don’t want to be told.The shade is reali was taught that the noses fell off as well and actually continued to believe this. in retrospect this makes no sense, considering greek/roman statues pretty much always have intact noses whereas egyptian ones are always conveniently missing theirs. thank you for pointing this out to me, i hadn’t even made that connection until now.Guys, that’s not even Cleopatra. That statue is attributed to Caesarion (Ptolemaios XV), son of Cleopatra VII and Julius Caesar. You can find the image source here. And yeah, that was a pretty big thing. Article here, and here.Also, Cleopatra? She was of the Ptolemaic Dynasty; the Ptolemies were Macedonian.So yeah, they weren’t white, but they weren’t exactly african either. If it helps, there was intermingling with the Persian aristocracy, and considering she and her sister had the same father but possibly different mothers, the idea of her being part african isn’t that far out of left field. Their family tree gets weird though, especially with the heavy amount of inbreeding. I’m no expert though, so I can’t say for sure. I found a paper on it though, if you’re interested? On their family tree, I mean.The first Ptolemy was a general under Alexander the Great, who conquered Egypt in 332 BC, after Egypt had been ruled by the Persians since 343 BC. Also, there are surviving statues of Cleopatra (or statues possibly of Cleopatra) with her nose intact?Black basalt statue of Cleopatra VIIA Ptolemaic QueenSculpture, probably of Cleopatra VIIportrait bas reliefThis was just a quick google search, so if there are others, I wouldn’t know. Anyway, this is not to say that archaeologists from the 19th century didn’t pull off some really racist bullshit.How they either tried to pass off the Nubian Pharoahs as white, or dismiss their civilizationArticle from October 1833“There is one great difficulty, and to my mind an insurmountable one, which is that the advocates of the negro civilization of Egypt do not attempt to account for, how this civilization was lost…Egypt progressed, and why, because it was Caucasian.”“Negroes were numerous in Egypt, but their social position in ancient times was the same that it now is [in the United States], that of servants and slaves.”[on Nubian pyramids] “In 1834, Giuseppe Ferlini destroyed several pyramids. As he blew up one of these, the Italian dealer laid hands on a fantastic treasure that turned out to have belonged to Kandake (Queen) Amanishakheto. The priceless historical documentation that a proper archaeological investigation would have yielded was pulverized by the explosion and the objects were sold to museums in Munich in 1839, and Berlin in 1844.”There is so much more. It was pretty bad. I wouldn’t put it past them to have cut off noses themselves, but I haven’t actually read or seen anything about it being a widespread practice? I’ve read a lot about forgeries, though…still, I’d feel more comfortable if I had a source on that. Keep in mind though, I’m NOT black, and since I’m not part of the group affected, of course this could just be a result of my own ignorance. I will own up to that. Nonetheless, erasure HAPPENED. And erasure itself, WAS widespread.Also, I can’t help but mention all the nonsense that went down with Greek and Roman pieces of art:Met Goes to the Closet, Gets Out Its Skeletons And Tells the StoriesThe 1930s cleaning of the Parthenon Sculptures in the British MuseumThey were actually dipping statues in Acid, yesInteresting post on the interpretations of race and gender in Aegean ArtThis is kinda besides the point, but I had to point something out in regards to the comments on greek statuary. If you’ve seen anything of what came out of archaic greece, you will find there are a lot of noses missing. A few examples:Kleobis and Biton (image two)Dipylon KourosArchaic KoreStatue of a kouros (youth)Antenor KoreTerracotta statuette of a standing womanThe Motya Charioteer (closeup)Marble head of a kourosTufa head of sphinx or sirenMarble sphinx on a cavetto capitalLimestone male figurePossibly HeraAlso, Egypt is not the only civilization to have a whole lot of statues with broken noses? Because Mesopotamia…kind of exists.“…While statues of rulers were not meant to be portraits, they did possess a life force when set up in their original contexts. We know this because texts record that certain rituals were performed in order to "bring them to life”; they were bathed, fed, and cared for, much like statues of deities…Images of rulers were thus invested with power in their visual form - power that could be taken away. For instance, many royal images were found with features such as eyes and noses mutilated by conquering rulers, suggesting that the destruction of the image was believed to also destroy the life force.” (source)So yeah, Historiography is important!!! How we view history, and the way it is taught to us is important!!! There was a whole lot of racist archaeological stuff that still follows us today, and we still have to argue about the presence of africans in ancient Egypt of all places which is ridiculous! Media representation is abysmal! And maybe a discussion is in order on how the archaic greek period of art isn’t really taught, which is a period heavily influenced by Near Eastern and Egyptian art. We should question how education on african history really only seems to focus, at least in my experience in the american education system, after the year 1492. And I’ve probably gotten something wrong here…and if so, PLEASE correct me. This is the information I have, and if I’m wrong, than I’m wrong. -- source link
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