appalachian-eventer:muscle-horse-appreciation:appalachian-eventer:muscle-horse-appreciation:The same
appalachian-eventer:muscle-horse-appreciation:appalachian-eventer:muscle-horse-appreciation:The same kind of basic pressure and release approach that was used to get Falkor used to being touched by humans. I have him haltered on a short contact and approach him with the clippers on, if he moves away he’s pivoting around in a forehand turn and I follow him around maintaining the clippers in the same position until he stops moving and settles before patting him and turning off the clippers (releasing the pressure). And keep doing sessions like that, working up to having the body of the clippers vibrating against his neck, and gradually having the body of the clippers (as of this morning) vibrating on the topline of his neck, which is the scarier bit. It’ll probably take me a few more sessions to actually start using the clippers to buzz the hair itself because he’s just a baby.R+ would almost definitely be way faster and easier, why use pressure/release for something so simple? I’m speaking as someone who DOES use pressure release, not an R+ purist. I don’t think what I’ve just described is either difficult or time consuming. He’s a two year old, I doubt any training method would get him acclimated to getting his mane clipped in less than an hour, which is how long I estimate this method will take to train him, though it’s spread across a number of days in overall sessions of about ten minutes because of his youth and inexperience.No I mean scientifically speaking I’m pretty certain that studies have shown positive reinforcement is faster than negative reinforcement ? But I’m drinking and not gonna look it up rn lol. Google scholar prob has stuff? But like. Trying to use pressure/release to acclimate an animal to something that is just inherently adversive to that animal by nature is just. Such a pain in the ass imo. I mean I have taught both dogs and ilex to get used to something like clippers in way less than an hr. But anyway I was just curious if there was a specific reason you chose to use negative reinforcement instead of positive. Not trying to offend, I definitely use pressure/release more often than R+ with ilex I’m sure you did train your horse with clippers and your dog faster than an hour. But as a two year old Muppet has a much shorter attention span, and a shorter emotional fuse than a riding age horse, and he has much less handling experience than a dog. So an hour of training spread across days is pretty reasonable. For certain training conditions positive reenforcement may be faster, but I think it may be bad pedagogy to juggle an animal between contrasting training methods, and there isn’t any reason pressure and release can’t be the most effective model for training things that are “inherently adversive”, because backing a horse and teaching them to steer is no less “adversive” and pressure and release is the most effective method for that. -- source link
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