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talesandthoughtsfromreality: cripplepunkdesigns: dulcissimabellatrix: cripplepunkdesigns: enby-ralsei: cripplepunkdesigns: rtheinkqueen: cripplepunkdesigns: cripplepunkdesigns: penndragon: cripplepunkdesigns: Locking your wheelchair lift and requiring disabled people to find an employee to unlock AND OPERATE it is a direct violation of the ADA. “The [ADA] Standards require ‘unassisted’ entry and exit from lifts (§410.1). Situations in which platform lifts are locked and require users to request or retrieve a key for operation will not satisfy this requirement for independent operation.” “Attendant operation, although recognized by the ASME A18.1 Standard, is expressly prohibited by the ADA Standards. Platform lifts must provide ‘unassisted entry and exit from the lift’ (§410.1).” (Source) Smells like a lawsuit waiting to happen… This is not great, but it’s likely because people are fucking stupid and will screw around with it if it’s not locked up. [ID: @gavrielabrahams “It’s probably because people were peeing in it.”] You think people were peeing. In an open wheelchair lift. In the middle of a museum. With public toilets around the corner. I think not. But even if people had been peeing in it or otherwise misusing the lift… It. Doesn’t. Matter. It’s not just “not great.” It’s ILLEGAL. It is just as illegal to lock off a wheelchair lift as it is to not provide one to begin with. The correct response to people peeing in an elevator is never to lock the elevator. It is to provide a toilet. If you think the correct response to any problem is to violate the civil rights of an entire group of people by denying them access, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Disability rights are civil rights. You want to know exactly how this went down? Let me tell you a tale. I was visiting the museum with friends. They went on around the corner while I finished looking at the previous exhibit. I then followed them around the corner only to find I couldn’t get up to the exhibit because the museum AS PART OF THEIR POLICY had illegally locked the lift. My friends didn’t know the lift was locked (why would the lift be locked?) and had no idea that I couldn’t get to them. Now I, the disabled person, am forced to travel halfway around the building to the front desk to find someone to unlock the lift for me, wait for them to finish what they’re doing, and then travel all the way back to the lift. This was bad enough in a wheelchair. Who else uses lifts? Oh yes. People who struggle to walk. Can you imagine, as a person who struggles to walk, being forced to walk halfway around a building, and then back again, just to access an exhibit? You wouldn’t do it. You’d skip the exhibit. You’ve just been completely denied access. So finally the museum employee unlocks the lift and then operates it (because yes, they’ve made it so I can’t operate it myself, which is also illegal). I finally get to the top probably ten minutes later, only to find that my friends have finished looking at the exhibit and are heading down again, wondering what has happened to me. After I’ve gone to all the trouble to get up there, fuck it if I’m not going to look at the damn exhibit. So I look at it, then head back to the lift to go back down, only to find they’ve locked the lift with me at the top and gone back to the front desk. If one of my friends hadn’t stayed up there with me, I’d probably still be up there. As it was, my friend had to go down the stairs, back around to the front, find an employee, and get them to come back and let me down. Leaving me sitting up there. Alone. For another five minutes. Now imagine if I had gone to the the museum by myself. Or what if there had been an emergency? You think if there was a fire some museum employee who couldn’t be assed to leave the damn lift unlocked until I had come back down would really have run back into the building to unlock the lift so I could get down? I think not. Locking an accessibility feature is never the right solution. It is denying access to an entire class of people. Which is ILLEGAL and a CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION. Disability law is civil rights law. Also making lifts that disabled people wouldn’t be able to use by themselves means implying that if we are disabled we can’t be independent and this is wrong. Disabled people should have the possibility to go whatever they have to go by themselves if they feel like doing so. Only we can decide what our limits are! It’s not just wrong - it’s illegal. The ADA specifically says that the disabled person must be able to use the lift alone and unassisted. Requiring an attendant operate the lift is a violation of federal disability law. is this also applicable in a school setting? there are lifts that require keys that students cannot have (even disabled students). Yes this is illegal even in a school setting. If the lift is the accessible route between two floors then disabled students must have free access. ADA requirements for elevators If places are going to require that an employee operate a lift then they should require that an employee be near the lift at all time ffs Hey so fun fact that’s still illegal. The ADA specifies that the disabled person must be able to run the lift themselves, unaided. If it requires a helper it’s an ADA violation. You’re not supposed to use an elevator in a fire though. Yeah because that’s what’s important here. Whether it should be used in a fire. How about all y’all ableds shut the fuck up and get off my damn posts.But I am amazed at how y’all so naive you think if there’s a fire the ableds are going to come looking for stranded disabled people instead of leaving us to burn. Personally I will be getting my own ass out of the building because if life has taught me anything it’s that ableds will save their own asses first and worry about disabled lives never. -- source link