my18thcenturysource: sartorialadventure: jeannepompadour:Doña María Josefa Juana de Ll
my18thcenturysource: sartorialadventure: jeannepompadour:Doña María Josefa Juana de Llera y Bayas de Escandón, I Condesa de Sierra Gorda., c. 1780 Oo, another Spanish woman with two watches! It must have been a Thing. Once more, this portrait nor the other one linked (Doña Juana María Romero by Ignacio María Barreda) are Spanish, both were painted in Mexico.Doña María Josefa Juana de Llera y Bayas de Escandón was the second wife of José de Escandón y Helguera, Count of Sierra Gorda, founder of Nuevo Santander, a region in the Viceroyalty of New Spain that is now Part of Tamaulipas, Nuevo León and Texas.Bellow the portrait says that she died at 44 years old and was buried in the church of Nuevo Santander, that is not in Spain. She was part of one of the Newspanish wealthiest families.The other portrait (the one of Doña Juana María Moreno) is in Mexico City, and was part of the Pixit Mexici exhibition in the Met, so finding out that it is not Spanish but New Spanish/Mexican, is not hard at all.Spanish and New Spanish fashion are both extra (and we love it), but are not the same, please please please tag as such. I mean, we don’t tag as “English” art from the American colonies, right? So let’s not do that for the Spanish colonies Hi @jeannepompadourSure! We all have our own weird tags to find in our blogs (it’s like my “white womenswear” or “white menswear” tag that people find odd until they realise I tag everything by colour and gender. LOL). I think I would add a fuller description/credit of the image, like adding the place of origin, so, if someone else sees the image and wants to know more, they can easily search and learn more, or tag in more specific ways. Now, is it your responsibility? No, it is not. Would it be nice to see that info? It definitely would.Getting to see Mexican stuff that is not a cliché of the big hat in the desert, or narcs with a green filter, is not very common in social media. So, when I get to see Mexican art, fashion, beauty, etc, from between the 16th and 20th centuries, it makes me real happy that new people will get to see that art and appreciate it and learn a little bit about where our current Mexican identity comes from. And when that art is not credited nor tagged or the info is incomplete or wrong, it just breaks my heart. I know that is a Me thing and my feelings about it, but it is still there.Now, since you are interested in costume history, then you know that fashion is way more than garments. Fashion is EVERYTHING that is in vogue in a certain time and place: from shoes and materials, to colours and beauty, to books and manners. So, ignoring the geographical setting of an object is loosing a lot of its context. For example: this love for clocks, and showing off several of them, was a thing in the New Spain since clocks (made in Europe) were way more expensive than jewels (made locally). I don’t think that was a thing in Spain, but there are contemporary accounts of women coming from Spain or other places in Europe, and being shocked that pieces of jewelry were quite accessible (they saw women from lower status wearing fine jewelry) and that other ladies of similar status to theirs had bigger better jewels than them. And that is just an example.Finally, I don’t know where you are from, but seeing your culture pretty much erased, is not cool. I know it is not your intention, and this must be waaaaaay down in the list of priorities, but it matters to me and I had to say it, and OF COURSE you are not obliged to do anything at all, but, I insist, I had to say it.Also, sorry for the LONG post, it ended being an opportunity to write down my feelings about this (that I’ve seen before and in other blogs and Instagram accounts before) in a, hopefully, clear way. -- source link
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